John Kricfalusi is the creator behind Ren and Stimpy, one of the most unique and strange animated shows in America. Michael Barrier is a animation historian. Here is an interesting discussion about, well, the complete unorthodoxness of Ren and Stimpy, and probably will stretch into talk about animation history, the distain John K. has for modern cartoons, and perhaps the feud that seems to have arisen between each other. Why I say "probably" is because this email discussion is in progress.